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The truth about vaccinations
Vaccines are generally regarded as essential to protect our children against illness, but there is opposition. As Dr Andrew Wakefield who challenged MMR fights for his career, another doctor weighs up the pros and cons of vaccines.

Vaccinating our children is a routine part of protecting them from illness in childhood - but a new book queries whether it is worth the risk. Dr Andrew Wakefield, who challenged the safety of the MMR vaccine because of fears over a possible link to autism, is currently fighting to save his career, meanwhile the Government insists vaccines are essential and save millions of lives.

The result is that many parents are anxious and confused about the best course of action. And now another doctor, Dr Richard Halvorsen, raises his concerns - warning that the Government "misleads us about vaccines". Author of a new book, The Truth About Vaccines, he claims that UK children are being used as "guinea pigs" and given "unnecessary" jabs for illnesses such as mumps, and a vaccine for whooping cough which has been "ineffective" in stamping out the illness.

Halvorsen is a GP who's spent five years researching vaccination and he says: "Vaccine programmes are not the magic bullet cure that they are claimed to be, and bombarding children with a cocktail of vaccines could be causing some serious health problems, with hundreds if not thousands of children adversely affected every year."

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Dr Halvorsen points out that a child is supposed to have 25 vaccines by the time they are 15 months old. "There remains uncertainty whether the growing number of childhood vaccinations is contributing to the rising numbers of children affected by asthma, diabetes and other immune related disorders," he claims.

"One vaccine expert disclosed to me that we will probably never be able to test the safety of vaccines while we bundle so many of them together and administer them at the same time. This means it's almost impossible to distinguish the side effects of one from another."

Father-of-two Dr Halvorsen began his investigation after getting a request to write an article on the MMR vaccination. "Until then I had no particular opinion on vaccines and routinely gave them to my patients' children and my own, and felt secure in the knowledge that they were safe.

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"Yet when I researched and tried to get the Government's side of the story on MMR, instead of being reassured, which I expected, I was dismayed to find that evidence showing it was safe was simply not there. It had been introduced with virtually no safety controls at all."

He believes vaccine risks are not properly assessed because, unlike drugs, vaccines generally do not undergo long-term safety trials. "I have been told that there is no one study that can disprove that MMR may cause 10% of autism cases in this country in susceptible children. Studies can show that MMR does not cause all autism. That's not good enough, and when I found that out I offered patients measles, mumps and rubella vaccines singly."

All too often he says parents' understandable concerns are met with unacceptable reactions and hostility by health authorities and doctors. "I've heard stories of parents trying to decide whether to vaccinate their children being patronised and bullied and even told it was the equivalent of abusing their child if they didn't opt for a vaccine."

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But he emphasises: "I am not anti-vaccination. They have an important role in the protection of children. I am in favour of some, while with others I believe they are not as effective as they are made out to be. All I'm calling for is the right for parents to have a truthful and open discussion on this issue."

Pros and cons of vaccinations
Dr Halvorsen looks at the case for and against controversial vaccines, but he says firmly: "Before making any final decisions, you are advised to consult a health professional about the specific needs of your child."

MMR (Measles, Mumps and Rubella)
Dr Halvorsen believes the vaccine serves little purpose and points out that: "MMR is the first and only vaccine to contain three live viruses. The studies to look for potential problems that this previously untried combination might cause have never been done."

And he believes that in view of the controversy over suggested links to autism, the MMR should be withdrawn until adequate long-term safety studies on sufficient numbers of children can demonstrate its safety.

He analyses its individual elements:

MEASLES
Measles used to kill more people than smallpox, scarlet fever and diphtheria combined, but improved nutrition and hygiene meant that by the mid 1950s deaths dropped to around 100 per year.

Despite claims vaccination of 95% of the population would eradicate the disease, there have been outbreaks in schools where 99% of children have been vaccinated, writes Dr Halvorsen.

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"Measles vaccine can cause permanent brain damage and SSPE (the rare but fatal brain disease) - though almost certainly less commonly than 'naturally caught' measles."

HIS VERDICT: On balance the risks of the disease remain greater than those associated with the vaccine, especially in vulnerable children with chronic illnesses.

MUMPS
It is a mild disease that rarely kills, most people get a slight swelling of the facial and neck glands and are then immune for life.

Because immunity wears off, giving the vaccine has resulted in raising the age which children catch mumps from early childhood to adolescence, where the symptoms are more likely to be severe and include permanent hearing loss, a painful swelling of testicles and possible infertility, says Dr Halvorsen.

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He also suggests that the mumps vaccine is less effective as part of MMR, than the single jab.

HIS VERDICT: This vaccination is unnecessary and the MMR vaccine is making the disease worse.

RUBELLA
The vaccine was introduced to save babies being born with deformities as a result of mothers catching the disease while pregnant, but even before MMR was introduced only 30 babies a year were damaged by rubella.

A Finnish study showed that after two MMR jabs, a third of girls lost all protection by age 15.

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HIS VERDICT: Not recommended for children, and it would be more effective to screen teenage girls to check if they've acquired immunity and vaccinate only those who don't have it.

HPV
This is aimed at the "Human Papilloma Virus" which causes genital warts that can result in cervical cancer. A new HPV vaccination programme has been recommended by health authorities for 12-year-old girls and could start across the UK in autumn 2008, subject to a review. The plan is to vaccinate girls before they have time to become infected with HPV, which is sexually transmitted.

In trials it has only prevented the pre-cancerous changes to cells rather than cancer itself, and it only protects against the two types of HPV that cause 70% of this cancer.

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HIS VERDICT: Some women in trials of the vaccine developed potential auto-immune disorders - mainly arthritis-related. This vaccine looks promising but it is too early to introduce it on a national scale.

ALUMINIUM
Dr Halvorsen also has concerns about aluminium which is present in most childhood vaccines. He says: "It's highly toxic, is known to cause brain damage and has been implicated in behavioural problems in children."

On the day of vaccination, young babies are given doses of aluminium that are the equivalent of up to a thousand times the maximum advised daily safety levels, he says.

HIS VERDICT: You can lessen the amount of aluminium your baby receives by spreading out the vaccines over a period of time.

"Spread out the length of time between the Pediacel (5-in-1), meningitis C and pneumococcal vaccines, all of which contain aluminium, so the amount of aluminium your baby receives on any one day will be reduced."

Of the three meningitis C vaccines available, Miningitec has the least aluminium, says Dr Halvorsen.

The Truth About Vaccines, by Dr Richard Halvorsen, is published by Gibson Square, priced £9.99. Available now.
pixie

I really am so glad I don't have to make these decisions any more.

I have become quite anti vaccines in the last 10 years or so I'm afraid. With my first 2 kids they had everything going because "it was the best for them".

I wish I'd seen the signs then.

Both of them had Whopping Cough, very badly. I thought I was going to lose my son as he was only a baby when he got it. They had it for about 6 months altogether.
That vaccine obviously didn't work.

My eldest son started to have fits after his DPT and continues to have irregualr EEG's, he's 26.

My eldest daughter also started to have fits when she had hers and was on medication for several years.

With my youngest daughter she had fits as well as Measles 3 times despite being vaccinated. She still takes anti seizure medication and she's now 21.

3 of them are Autistic with other disabilities as well.

I think kids these days in this country are so well looked after as far as nutrician is concerned that even if they catch one of these illnesses they will recover well. Also the children's immune systems need to be able to react to illnesses and they can't do that as well as they should if they are vaccinated against everything.

It's like kids getting dirty, they need to so they are protected against germs and diseases. Lots of parents like to keep their kids just too clean.

I hope I've writen that so it's understandable and that I've not offended anyone. We are bound to all have different opinions on such a serious subject and I'm afraid that I just won't vaccinate my youngest any more. His body has had enough over the years.
barbsy

well you havent offended me pixie. im in agreement with you. you have had so much with your children so your entitled to think the way you do. i have two autistic children, one whom i have probably mentioned is in residential with 5 other young adults, she is 22 now,home this week and im shattered!!! the little un is autistic,adhd,ocd,sleep epilepsy,palate and heart problems. my eldest had all her vaccinations,and i have always wondered what went wrong. with my youngest his problems began shortly after mmr he had fits and it was as you would well know so frightening. he never had whooping cough vaccine because of epilepsy already being in the family i was advised against it at the time.
Mum2five

I think there should be more screening of babies before they give out the MMR.  Some babies have a weak immune system and just can't handle the 3 in 1 jab....

as for the aluminium in the vaccine, well my daughter has many toxins in her body and one of them is aluminium.... and if you re-read the article about what aluminium can do to you.  She is also heavily lead poisioned too.

If you google lead toxins, it will shock you.

Don't even get me started on mercury!!!!!!
pixie

Oh no, me neither or I will put people off posting. I have very strong views on vaccinations.

I do however think the principle of protecting our children is a good one and should be considered. But they never tell you enough about them, you have to find out for yourself.

Parents need to be able to make an informed decision and to do that they need all the information.
Sarniajoy

My granddaughter (4 months) has just had her last lot of vaccinations for the time being. I think it is our duty to protect our children from disease if at all possible. When my youngest daughter took her to the doctor the other week a child was brought in with measles, which annoyed my daughter. I remember having measles as a child in the 50s, it is a horrible illness! The MMR debacle is now seen to be nonsense, it doesn't cause autism! Our middle daughter decided to have separate shots for her eldest, he has just been diagnosed with Aspergers! Fortunately she wised up by the time she had her second son and he had the MMR, he is perfectly normal!

When my second and third daughters were babys in the 70s there was a scare over the whooping cough vaccine. The eldest  had it without any problems, but I decided that the younger two shouldn't have it! They both got whooping cough, the youngest having the disease extremely badly indeed.

Although I wouldn't go as far as to insist that vaccination was compulsory, maybe schools and nurseries should insist on seeing a certificate of vaccination before a child is admitted!
pixie

I agree Sarniajoy, it's vital to protect our children from these horrible diseases.

I just think parents need much more information and need to know all the facts so that they can make informed decisions.

The government made the MMR look highly suspicious by rubbishing Andy Wakefield and driving him out of the UK. Most ordinary parents would see something a little suss about that.

Different people have different views and it's good that we can discuss them here as adults with our children's wellbeing at heart.
Mum2five

This debate could go on and on and on.... the for and against.

Yes, I do believe our kids need some protection, but not at the cost of damaging their immune system.  This is why I believe our kids need screening beforehand because not all children are the same.
charles47

Vaccination can carry many benefits but it can also do a good deal of damage.

40 years ago, smallpox was still something to worry about. Now it's found only in laboratories, due to vaccination. Good news there, then. But those of us who were vaccinated (compulsory before going abroad at one time) were sometimes made very ill by the vaccine.

Today, the flu vaccine can give you the flu if your immune system is in a rubbish state. If my dad (who is a priority case) has the flu vaccine he gets the flu. So he no longer has the vaccine. Daren't get him the pneumonia one!

There are known factors for avoiding the Pertussis (Whooping Cough) vaccine - as Barbsy says, one of them is epilepsy in the family. But while Barbsy was given the correct advice, we were not told or asked anything.

Fear is the key: the government uses it to frighten you into accepting the vaccine, while others will use it to get you to refuse it.

As with anything else, getting all the necessary information is vital. And then what you do with it is up to you - as it should be.
Annie

My two eldest had their vacinations back in the 60's, my youngest was born after a considerable gap and medical advice then was for her not to be vacinated against whooping cough because of her eldest sisters disability.

   When she was four months old Julie inspite of vacination contacted whooping cough, there was an epidemic at the time,  in her case probably because of the fact that she had been vacinated a mild case. The baby  caught it from her, I think on reflection that I would have preferred Emma to have had the vacination,  fortunately she recovered well but it was a very distressing illness for a four month old.

  Like Pixie I am glad I no longer have to make that decision,
                                                                                                 Annie
Mum2five

The problem with getting advice is everything is either AGAINST vaccinations or FOR vaccinations and its very hard to make a decision when you know its your child's health at risk, after all, once its been injected into you there is no way to get it back out again  

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